Community Suggestion: Redo the religion types for the organization article
Redo the religion types for the organization article
Feature Upgrade · Articles & templates · Created by that_guy04
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What functionality is missing? What is unsatisfying with the current situation?
Currently, when you try to make a religion, you are met with 16 different article types, ranging from the obvious(Religous, Cult), to the unpronouncable(Religious, Archidiaconate), and this is very intimidating to anyone who doesn't already know all this stuff.For instance, I spent half an hour researching what all of them meant(which isn't helped by the lack of internal resource to provide this information), and I found that 5(five) of them are all practically the same thing(Archidiaconate, Bishopric, Deanery, Parish, and Primacy), an office/area controlled by that office. This is an unnecessary complication and waste of space in the types drop down. I am suggesting a new list of religious organization types, this being:
- Religious, Coven
- Religious, Cult
- Religious, Divine Host(could also be called pantheon)
- Religious, Druidic Circle
- Religious, Financial
- Religious, Folk Lore
- Religious, Holy Order
- Religious, Monastic Order
- Religious, Office(could also be called area, or something similar)
- Religious, Established Religion
- Religious, Sect
- Religious, Temple
- Merge all of the types that are an office and area that the office controls into a single type(Religious, Office)
- Merge the Inquisitorial type into the Holy Order type, since an inquisition is simply a holy order specifically for preventing herecy
- Merge the Pantheon type into the Divine Host type, since a divine host is a group of supernatural beings that aren't necessarily divine, but are worshipped anyway, such as ones ancestors, or a fey court, and a pantheon is bsically the same thing, just with only gods
- Renamed Organized religion to Established religion to remove confusion, since a cult or druid circle can also be organized
- Added the Folk Lore type to represent pre-christine-european-esc folk lores, where there is no central temple but people still held similar enough beliefs to consider it a single religion
How does this feature request address the current situation?
The updated list that I proposed is far more approachable and understandable, due to being shorter and not having multiple types that represent essentially the same thing, not to mention the benefit from removing the barely readable letter jumble that is Archidiaconate. Another benefit is not forcing people to use christian names for their religious leaders(Deacon, Archdeacon, etc).The Team's Response
Thanks for the suggestion! The terms you point out are precise terms that are used in the real world to refer to very specific things. We've seen multiple times how our community wants these more specific terms for the Type drop-downs, so we won't remove them. If you find these terms too complicated or irrelevant for your world, you can skip the Type drop-down and create your own with a key-value pair: --KEY::VALUE--, for example --Type::Religious, Holy Order--
Current score
25/300 Votes · -3101 points
Votes Cast
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by A Beloved Devil
on 2023-07-23 03:53 -
-300
by CalebStrange
on 2023-07-22 00:20 -
-100
by Darynu
on 2023-07-17 20:16 -
+1
by joshallentaylor
on 2023-07-15 22:20 -
-1
by A Adorable Hobbit
on 2023-07-14 09:23 -
+1
by Tortledungeon
on 2023-07-13 10:50 -
+1
by Lucifer__oO
on 2023-07-13 04:17My points wont matter anyways, so won't add more, but I think your idea got unfair deal here, because you 100% right. It is extremely confusing and too specific as it is now. I don't even use it because of how lost I get in it. But yeah, on the other hand I do see the point that others have made already, so I understand where they coming from.
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-100
by Rayna Fairbell
on 2023-07-11 08:42 -
+300
by HelenaHuman
on 2023-07-10 15:48 -
-300
by Fiovara
on 2023-07-10 14:01 -
-300
by cow2face
on 2023-07-09 08:16 -
-300
by A Roaring Skeleton
on 2023-07-08 14:58I am sorry but the fact that you are unable to pronounce something or have not read at it should not constitute a reason for the of the people who are aware of it not to use it. Also Arch diaconate (Arch..Deacon...ate) not that hard to understand :P
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-300
by Attacus
on 2023-07-06 18:54 -
-100
by Galahad423
on 2023-07-05 20:24 -
-300
by PoppaeaSabina
on 2023-07-04 13:59 -
-100
by Michael Chandra
on 2023-07-04 13:43Sidenote: You can always manually add items to the sidebar, so you're never restricted to the available option. But if you want non-christian options, suggest those instead.
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-300
by Alishahr
on 2023-07-03 15:28 -
-100
by A Fierce Dragon
on 2023-07-03 10:09 -
-300
by ringkvinna
on 2023-07-03 09:37Learning new things via software usage is desirable, and precise language should remain important; there's nothing broken about new terms sparking curiosity. (A switch to non-specific religious titles would be great, but that doesn't seem to be the main point here)
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-100
by A Revolutionary Skeleton
on 2023-07-03 08:14 -
-100
by A Filthy Kitten
on 2023-07-02 22:35 -
-1
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-300
by JetpackMonkey
on 2023-07-02 18:55 -
-300
by Scalenex
on 2023-07-02 18:32It's a lot less disruptive to add new options than it is to remove them. That would screw up many author's articles including mine.
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by JoellaKay
on 2023-07-02 05:26Removing from the list will affect a lot of people's worlds. I know I would not like it if I had a parish religion and it suddenly showed up as an office religion in the sidebar (or some other change due to merging/renaming).
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+300
by that_guy04
on 2023-07-02 04:22
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